Identification - Torque Converters
There are two main types of industrial torque converters. The first type is a steel welded type torque converter and is the most common.
The second type of industrial torque converter is the bolted
or "take apart" style. The population of bolted style
converters is declining. They are distinctly different from welded
units, but the terminology is relatively the same. Identifying
bolted torque converters requires some additional questions
which are at the end of this section.
The
following definitions are used to describe industrial
torque converters:
- Identifying Marks any numbers,
letters, paint stripes, paint dots, etc. that are on the
exterior of the converter body.
- Hub - the portion of the converter that is inserted into
the pump and is located on the transmission side of the
converter.
- Pilot - the portion of the converter that is inserted
through the drive plate and into the flywheel and is located
on the engine side of the converter.
- Splines the machined grooves on gears, hubs and shafts.
- Stator Splines the upper set of splines seen when
looking down through the converter hub and into the center
of the stator. Note: some specialized converters may have
dual stators and therefore two sets of stator splines.
- Turbine Splines the lower set of splines seen when
looking down through the converter hub at the turbine
assembly. Note: some converters also have another set of
drive splines in the very bottom of the front cover that may
drive a quill shaft for an auxiliary pump, etc.
- Mounting Style and Pattern how the converter mounts to
the drive plate.
- Shroud sheet metal cover attached to the top of the
converter body that acts as a heat sink and helps circulate
more air flow to aid in cooling.
- Fins - metal ribbing on the exterior of the converter
body that act as a heat sink and helps circulate more air
flow to aid in cooling.
- Dowels alignment pins on the mounting side of the
converter that aid in drive plate alignment.
- Ring Gear gear toothed metal ring welded to the outer
edge of the converter.
Identify Vehicle and Remove Converter
When inquiring on industrial torque converters, you should
first record the make and model of the equipment. Also note the type of transmission and engine, as well as
the fuel type. The converter is
easier to identify, and less likely youll make an identification error, if
you remove it from the equipment. Be sure to remove
the drive plate from the converter. Now you are
ready to start identifying your torque converter.
Identify Converter Markings
The body of a welded converter is a one
piece "non-serviceable" unit. If your torque converter is a
welded unit, you need to search the exterior of the unit for any
identifying marks, most notably on the engine side or "bottom"
of the converter. Note any identifying marks you find.
Identify Hub Type
The next item youll need to describe is the type of hub.
Here is the terminology for describing the hub style:
- Plain smooth with no driving features of any kind.
- Eared 2 or 4 small tabs or "ears" that stick out on
the end of the hub.
- Flats - two flat areas machined into the sides of the
hub.
- Slotted small areas of material removed on the end of
the hub.
- Geared splined gear welded on to or machined into the
hub. Count and note the number of splines or gear teeth.
- Flanged flange located on the end of the hub.
- Grooved groove machined into the hub to accept a snap
ring or a sealing ring.
Identify Stator/Turbine Splines
Note how many stator and turbine splines.
If you look down into the hub, the top set of gear splines are
in the stator and the next lower set of gear splines are in the
turbine. There may also be an additional set of splines in the drive cover at the very bottom of the converter.
Identify Mounting Style
Note the mounting
style, bolt pattern, and pilot characteristics.
The pilot is on the engine side of the converter. It will
usually be solid, but sometimes they are hollow, flanged, center
bored or stepped. Some converters have no pilots, instead, they
use a removable input guide.
Mounting styles
and patterns can be described as:
- Mounting Nuts threaded nuts (hex, round, rectangle,
oblong, square, or triangle shaped) welded on the converter
bottom. These nuts will be arranged in various patterns such
as small circle, large circle, etc. that youll need to
describe. Count the number of threaded nuts and identify the
thread size and pitch. They can be U.S. standard or metric.
- Mounting Ring a metal ring welded onto the bottom of
the converter that has threaded holes in it. Count the
number of threaded holes and identify the thread size and
pitch. They can be U.S. standard or metric.
- Threaded Holes individual threaded holes that are
drilled and tapped directly into the bottom of the converter
body. Count the number of threaded holes and identify the
thread size and pitch. They can be U.S. standard or metric.
- Studs threaded studs welded on the bottom of the
converter. Count the number of studs and note the thread
size.
- Straps metal straps that are riveted to the bottom of
the converter. These straps allow attachment directly to the
flywheel (no drive plate used with this style).
Identify External Features
Note whether or not your converter has a shroud,
fins, dowels or ring gear.
At this time, a clear picture of
which welded industrial torque converter you have should be
established and pricing and availability can be supplied.
Identifying Aluminum Bolted Torque Converters
This
questionnaire will allow us to help you identify your aluminum
bolted torque converter.
It is best to have the torque converter out of the equipment,
preferably on a workbench where you can examine it closely.
Please answer all questions as thoroughly as possible.
1.
How
many total holes, including the ones being used, are there
between the fins on the aluminum bowl?
____________________________________________
2.
Whats the four digit
number stamped into the aluminum bowl between the fins, near the
D shaped bolt heads?_____________________________________
3.
Is
there a ring gear welded to the bottom steel cover?
_______________
If yes,
how many teeth does it have?
________________________________
4.
Does
the hub have two ears, splines or gear teeth?
_________________
If splines, how many?_____________________________________________
If gear
teeth, how many?
__________________________________________
5. How
many splines are on the input shaft*?
_______________________
*this is the shaft that inserts deepest into the torque
converter
6.
If the
torque converter is unpainted, are there any stamped ink numbers
on the converter?
_____________________________________________________
If
yes, what are they?_____________________________________________
7.
Have
you taken the converter apart?
____________________________
If so,
is there visible damage to the internal parts?
____________________
8.
Are
there additional marks anywhere on the torque converter?
_______
If so,
what are they?
_____________________________________________
9.
This
torque converter is in a:
Brand__________________________________________________________
Type___________________________________________________________
Model__________________________________________________________
Serial Number___________________________________________________
Transmission Information:__________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
_______________________________________________________________
10.Additional Information or
Comments:______________________________
_______________________________________________________________
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